Freedom and Liberation

 Some of you may think, "How can Dharma, which sets limits on thoughts and words, and regulates and controls, make a person free?" Freedom is the name that you give to a certain type of bondage. Genuine freedom is obtained only when delusion is absent, when there is no identification with the body and senses, and no servitude to the objective world. People who have escaped from this servitude and achieved freedom in the genuine sense are very few in number. Bondage lies in every act done with the consciousness of the body as the Self, for one is then the plaything of the senses. Only those who have escaped this fate are free; this 'freedom' is the ideal stage to which Dharma leads. With this stage constantly in mind, if you are engaged in the activity of living, then you will become a liberated person (mukta-purusha) in this very life.

He calls it a certain type of bondage; like that 'engagement' is it that certain type of bondage or just engaged in the business of life?

I noticed that the closest to freedom was during dancing remembering that I am 'not that and not this', not the body and not all the thoughts related to the body, that was the type of freedom we felt and it went beyond it by negation and in the end it merged with the rhythm and the music and that is an elevating experience, because of the joy in that freedom and when shared with others dancers it was love.

Bondage is every act done with the consciousness of the body as the self, that was very clear during dancing, when we are constantly remembering that we are not that, we don't give the senses power and we take our attention away from it.
We constantly remember and try not to forget that everything that is conceptual is related to the body and therefore considered, 'not that'. If we make a good habit out of that practice, we realize that actually about everything is 'not that' and only what we cannot see and what is beyond the senses is real and therefore, we cannot think about it or it is already again a concept and not that. It is what is left after we take everything away, a state of pure being.

Merging with music is an experience and it feels free, because we go beyond the mind and all what we possibility can have in the mind.

If I consider that state of mind as an activity of living and we are engaged in that activity of living, it is also about good company. During dancing it was with people looking for the same freedom, but there was still the dream that older ages need more safety, the safety was missing and with time we began to feel it.
Because of that safety missing it was not even possible to talk, only in work-shop environment things were addressed and after a while that was too much and there was that guy who ignored the fever he had and afterwards he nearly died of it and he was for two months in a comma and it felt like a miracle that he recovered.
And the other person was a work shop assistant, she had a major fall and fractured both wrists and we saw her again three months later and I tried to talk to her and it was very strange and after that talk she was in the insight with daggers pointing at herself or her heart and a year later she died of cancer.

Only those who have escaped this fate are free; this 'freedom' is the ideal stage to which Dharma leads. With this stage constantly in mind, if you are engaged in the activity of living, then you will become a liberated person (mukta-purusha) in this very life.

He told us why we have first to listen over and over before we are finally able to go into action. It is a sign that we didn't listen to it over and over again if we are not able to go into action.

When he came in my dream about a year before he left the body it felt green and spring and it was wonderful and he said 'engaged' and we had to go on and we had to think it over no matter what. First I didn't want to do it, because it can be wrong understood and he was in the dream and said, 'not ready', so I had to go on, it means more or less we have his words and write down what we think about it to get a feeling for it or we have an insight and have to do the same and he is the insight and he is the following step.
So the following step after the insight is to think it over no matter what and only if we go on listening over and over again we will be able to go into action, that is what he said.

But I didn't like how my sleep felt tonight.

Now I had to listen over and over and by thinking over I had to get an answer to the insights I had already before and the man who is in our dream to awake us. I had to get those answers, he is the insights and the following step and that is why I went to him.  

Only those who have escaped this fate are free; this 'freedom' is the ideal stage to which Dharma leads. With this stage constantly in mind, if you are engaged in the activity of living, then you will become a liberated person (mukta-purusha) in this very life.

Engaged in the activity of living and we will become a liberated person in this very life, what do you think about that meaning of 'engaged'?

I like that engaged in the activity of living and how about you?

If we escaped the fate we are free and it is the ideal stage of Dharma, but we cannot live it alone, we are also 'engaged' with Baba and his divine duty to the world and the others if we like it or not.

Only now it gets a meaning that people are grounded, it means on the ground of the ocean if they understand tradition instead of sat-chit-ananda, what is a holy tradition and Veda, if we see in it our own tradition, we are in the mind and we just look like old fashioned, because we hold up traditional values but it was like seven million people and they were that old-fashioned dressed up in the insight and listening to him over and over again should lead into action and there was a man who said, 'help us' and a woman who said, 'I am hungry' and there is something that should be done about it.

But the image of the withered leaves falling down feels different and we are engaged in that life while we dream it.