Three Types of Karma

If the world is real, it must be cognized even during the stage of dreamless deep sleep, but we are not conscious of the world during sleep. Hence, the visible world is as unreal as the dream world. The Universe is a reflection of the Divine (Brahman). The sky might be reflected in a pot of toddy but that does not defile it. Similarly, in this vehicle called body, the Atma dwells pure and undefiled. The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future). The suffering and travails of this world are illusory and transitory. Fix your mind firmly on this great fact and set out bravely on the path of spiritual practice, the practice of devotion.

Baba (thought for the day)

In the first sentence we have the message. Is there anybody in the West of all the scientist getting to that conclusion that the world is not real, because we cannot cognize it during the stage of dreamless deep sleep?
We are not conscious of the world during sleep. So why not everybody recognizes the message in Baba’s words and listens to it?

If the world is real, it must be cognized even during the stage of dreamless deep sleep, but we are not conscious of the world during sleep. Hence, the visible world is as unreal as the dream world.

And the next conclusion is not less strange to us, isn’t it?
The visible world we perceive with our senses is very real for the senses; nevertheless, Baba is telling us here that the visible world is unreal as the dream world, because we cannot cognize it during the dreamless deep sleep. For us it means it would not be a good sleep if we would be awake during deep sleep, because we only get enough rest if we sleep and not if we are awake. For someone who got not used to a spiritual principle and that it turns what is ‘real’ for the mind upside down, that doesn’t make much sense, doesn’t it?

The mind cannot understand it and that is why people don’t listen. We don’t know how to imagine the visible world to be unreal because we don’t have any cognition faculty during deep sleep. That kind of conclusion is for the mind not understandable. The mind experiences the world during waking and dream state and during the deep sleep it wants to rest and that is reason enough why it is like that. It is understood for the mind without that we have to ask further questions and we think it is for all the same, it is the common mind reality and mind is also for all the same, there is also ‘one’ mind and when we meditate we actually purify the mind and that is why we have a positive effect on collective consciousness and if lots of people purify the mind and meditate together, we have a positive effect and it is developing consciousness and goes in direction of world peace.

Hence, the visible world is as unreal as the dream world. The Universe is a reflection of the Divine (Brahman).

First Baba is getting to the conclusion that the world is unreal because we cannot cognize it around the clock and if the world is unreal, what is real, the divine Brahman and that is the message. The world is not real, Brahman is real. The relative conceptual reality around us is not real, but the absolute non-changing consciousness is real. And does the feeling that the mind doesn’t understand it get better?

Not only our waking state is as unreal as the dream, that is Baba’s message, the mind experiences it a different way and we are in the mind, the mind has to be purified, it is never pure that is the first thing we have to realize about the mind. Darshan, the reflection of truth is therefore the experience of the divine and we get ‘insights’. Insights or inner view as Baba said, not interview, but get inner view – is the result of Darshan, the sight of truth.

Do we know exactly what a Darshan is? Do people know the difference between developing the imaginative faculty of the mind – what is mind only and Darshan, sight of truth and insights?

Baba said in the inner view, as the man who is in our dreams to awake us that he is the insight and the following step.

I was in touch inside with Baba since 85 and that are exactly 30 years and we all came to Baba such a long time ago and we don’t know anything about ‘contemplation’ and thinking over his words? ‘Processing’ as a means to purify the mind if it is done right and not wrong it was not a sharing of experience but getting aware of feelings, what we usually or often don’t get aware off and thinking over Baba’s words is contemplation. We have actually to get aware that the word is God. With Baba it is about God, even if it also has to do with feelings, but as it is stated in the Bible, first is the word and the word is with God and God is the word.

The word is what made us go to him, it is his divine message, without that message we would never have gone to him … and being with him was the experience of the word is with God, he said he is God and now we have to get aware by contemplation that the word, his message is God. Without his divine message there would be no avatar. It is the message that does make him God.

The Universe is a reflection of the Divine (Brahman).

It is not only Brahman; it is the reflection of Brahman. Darshan it is not only the ‘sight of truth’ it is a reflection of truth. It is inner view, we do not see it with our eyes and in the ‘silence’ of Darshan we had to get aware of the ‘inner view’ and that truth is not what the eyes see, but what we experience during ‘Darshan’ and it has nothing to do with the mind and the senses, but with inner seeing or insights.

Atman reflects, reacts and resounds. The universe is the reflection of the divine.

At least by now we should realize that actually we don’t know it and in listening to him we get maybe a glimpse of it. It is a fact that the mind doesn’t like the feeling to not know and begins to get into developing the imaginative faculty of the mind thinking it knows anyhow. That is the problem, the mind is the problem and Baba always is telling us that the mind is the problem.

And why we don’t know it? Because we don’t know Brahman. We think we don’t understand it because it is Sanskrit and give up thinking it over. The word is with God and if we don’t think it over, we don’t get aware of it. We know it from Baba who is telling us that ‘he is God and we are also God, but we have to realize it’. We develop our imaginative mental faculty thinking we know love, but he talks of another type of love and that love is not based on the imaginative faculty of the mind, but on testified experience.

If by know listening to Baba’s speech if we are inside already developing the imaginative faculty of the mind instead of listening to the Darshan in his words, we are already not anymore with him, but in the mind. I think what happens most of time in the mind is that it cannot get the reality and it projects it into future, the time we will understand and the present is gone.

Past and future are mind. Only the presence is Atma. And by going into the mind and hoping we will understand it one day when we have that testified experience of it, we bring up all the mind stuff in our life and that is why we have to see it in our own life, we can only understand it if we see it actually in our own life. That is also what Baba is telling, we just have to listen. We don’t listen, we just read it and that is not listening. If we are listening to his words, we are able to think it over and to absorb. It is like the study circle, most of times it is only a sharing, sitting together and sharing thoughts, but it has not been the study of Baba’s words. To be able to remember and study it we actually have to contemplate ‘his truth’ and our mind refused to go into it, because it feels too complicated.

The example of the sun reflecting in a glass of water is used to explain why our mind has to be pure that the sunlight can be reflected in the water and the water can tell of itself, ‘I am that’. That is the reflection of it and ‘self-realization’.

That is what was present on your birthday morning, the reflection of ‘I am that’ and you were the instrument of the sun, because it needs a husband to reflect the sun for a woman and there is no husband, as Baba said when he left actually the body, ‘no more husband, nothing left but an empty Western shoe’. We cannot use that emptiness of not caring and using Baba only for selfish purposes if we should realize the ‘reflection of the I am that’.

But here Baba uses a similar example to show that the sky can reflect in a pot, but it doesn’t defile it, but it will not get bad by it. 

The sky might be reflected in a pot of toddy but that does not defile it. Similarly, in this vehicle called body, the Atma dwells pure and undefiled.

And he explains that the Atma is living in our body and it will never change. We know that consciousness will never change, it cannot change, because it is not material, but Baba talks about divinity and we imagine it as a being, as he is telling us that ‘he is God’. The Atma is pure consciousness, but nevertheless, it is not just a state of silence like pure consciousness, it is the reflection of the divine being, it is the higher self, the jivatma and the Paramatma is the universal self and that means ‘divinity’.

The whole is more than the sum of its parts. It is not just silence as we experienced it with mediation and a state of non-conceptual being or pure being, it is a soul, it is our soul and it is the universal soul and that is felt like an entity, it is divinity. It was in the insight present as, ‘I am the One’. It means logically if there is the ‘reflection’ and insight and his presence in us reflection as ‘I am that One’ it is that reflection what makes us logically conclude, if there is only one and he is only one, there is only one ‘I’ and that is universal and that is the real characteristic of the ‘I’ that it is universal and not the body. If that reflection is true for Baba it is also true for us.

Insight is not inner talking what would be just the imaginative faculty of the mind thinking it is him, when in reality it is the mind and conceptual and not a reflection. 

 The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller.

That we know from meditation. If we purify the mind the fruit will be good if the mind is not pure, it is not possible to get aware of the reflection. It depends to the vessel if we can realize it or not. And all our imaginative faculty of the mind is of no use when it is about truth. We have to purify the mind to be able to know what testified truth is and what just our imaginative faculty of the mind is.  

When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).
What is the wisdom dawning? Certainly not that we should ‘think and get rich’ and sending such books around and to our daughter?

Actually that is more the sign that we have not even understood that it is about a message if we do that and that Baba and his message cannot be separated, he is also for us the messenger of God, but he is God. What is God without a message, if there is no message, there is no God, but only the mind.
All people in the mind don’t talk about God and are in silence. If we keep the message in silence, we are not different from the rest of the world and the people in the mind. Only the message can make a difference and it has to be the right message.

We know from the Christ that he first said he was the messenger of God and afterwards he said he is the son of God and finally he said, ‘I and my father are one’.

In Baba we met only the ‘I am God’ level and not the progression from messenger to the son and to the father, but for us it is different. We are for sure first ‘messenger of God’ and that is why we got the message from Prasanthi Nilayam after Baba left the body, ‘your message has begun’, so we first have to get aware that there is actually a divine message and not only what we think what pleases our mind and thinking about getting rich …

 The suffering and travails of this world are illusory and transitory. Fix your mind firmly on this great fact and set out bravely on the path of spiritual practice, the practice of devotion.

 And Baba tells us why, because it is all transitory.

As it seems we like to develop the imaginative faculty of the mind and we think that being unlimited wealthy is also God and in our imaginative faculty we can see ourselves in our next life in a good position, but we don’t know there is uncertainty and we know it depends our Karma. It means ‘we don’t know our next life’ and that it can be by bad Karma and the opposite. Someone who goes to Baba who is divinity on earth and an avatar and after thirty years has not understood the ABC of his message, not even that much to be careful, ABC, means always be careful … has not put Baba’s message into practice and he tells us that in the inner view that he was in the wheelchair and there was a reason to it and now we have to somehow work it out that it does make sense. We don’t know what it is, but it cannot be good, because it is now in the insight as a catastrophe and also there is the wheelchair.

The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).

Maybe we will change roles and the hand reaching out for 34 million sand corns in that big divine hand and a sailing ship went happily over the ocean, what means crossing the ocean of life, there is no doubt that it will be true it would make sense if we listen to his words to see it as the future if we go for his message and if not that life, it will be next life.
But he also said he will be the storm and amok and that is the result of the catastrophe. Someone who make us feel in the name of Baba like a homeless beggar and ruin is in the air doesn’t create good Karma and it will be there also next life. A catastrophe doesn’t mean anything good. 

We don’t go to the highest reality on earth and make a catastrophe out of it if we are clever, but we listen and we try to do our best, because he warns us to go against him.
‘Confrontation with me means death’, it was also Baba who said being the man in our dreams who is there to awake us and why death, because he is Atman. If we are in the mind and the body and we ignore everything he tells us or we just take what pleases our mind and the rest we don’t even look at, that is not listening to Baba and it is not right action and if we have to accept truth, we also have to accept right action. If we accept only part of it and adapt our action to that conclusion of falsehood, it is not true, there no such thing as half truth, we do it to not be forced to accept right action or our mind does it to make sure we can go on as we like in our job or action and the mind refused to see any responsibility that is ignorance and not, truth, right action and peace, and no pure love and not ahimsa, non-violence, with other words the five human values the essence of Baba’s teaching are not practiced.

If divine Grace and gifts of God are present in our mind based on the imaginative faculty of the mind and to be able to not have to accept right action we actually adapt truth to our own need as we thin, there is not experience of ‘pure love’, only the imagination in our mind that we know ‘love’, even if we don’t know and we hide behind that wrong conclusion and all turns into falsehood, there is no excuse for the mind if we claim it to be true no matter what reason.

All selfishness and self-elevation of the mind is based on our imaginative faculty of the mind and the imagination that we know that Baba gives us all we want, also a part of the imaginative faculty of the mind taking advantage of the deluding characteristic nature of the Universe, just taking advantage of it and what does that mean in other words seen in the light of wisdom, we live in our mind for self-elevation and self-aggrandizement, thinking that we are good, but there is no testified experience of it and the Karma is not good and it has turned into a catastrophe.
The experience of catastrophe is the fact that there is no truth, but only the level of imaginative faculty of the mind based on falsehood, we make even ourselves believe that it is true when it is actually not true.
It is stupid to go to Baba who is highest truth and wisdom and holding on to our mind habits and refusing by that any transformation in the mind no matter what is the reason for such ignoble and not right action. Either we go for Atman or we go for the mind, but it is not possible to live both at the same time. We cannot have two masters as it is stated in the Bible the mammon and God. If we are seeing ourselves as Baba devotees, Baba is the embodiment of truth, we cannot be a Baba devotees if we are only living falsehood and nothing is true and we do not follow his teaching, but we decided for a reason or another to actually follow the mind and not Baba.
Everything what we tell about Baba is 'message' and if it is not true, it has consequences.
We have to listen to Baba and not tell things like we would know if we don’t know.

If we have to accept truth it means we have to tell that we don’t know actually and we have to accept right action, we have to purify the mind to be able to absorb his wisdom and meditate or do Sadhana and we have to do the best for the world and world peace and not use his message only for self-elevation of our own mind and self-aggrandizement and building up a huge ego, I don’t remember if it was Baba, but someone said once that there is nothing worse than a spiritual ego and that is building up a spiritual ego.

As it is a catastrophe in the insight we have to accept it as catastrophe, that is accepting truth, what is the next step and what is right action? If we have made out of Baba’s message a catastrophe, instead of ending well it ended in a catastrophe?

As the catastrophe was also above the head of my father it must also be that first part of Karma, the accumulated Karma in the past, Sanchita and as it is felt now in the presence getting aware of it, it affects as well what we undergo in the present and that is Aagami and all those stories with the falsehood in the ex who said he meditated when it was not true and he said he knew he would do it all his life, when in reality he never did it, that was in purpose to deceive and to mislead into a false conclusion and in the meantime we also know why as we had the pleasure to get into touch with his former boss who happened to be also a devotee. Incredible what kind of awful experiences we have as in those three entities the ex who used falsehood to walk in the footsteps of his former boss and he sent him to Baba to get rid of him as it seems, gave him his room and told him that he could ask Baba for everything he wanted, in that motivation he went to Baba it was all already upside down. We go to Baba to get the Grace of God and not to ask him for all we want and with infinite desires. He is teaching the ceiling of desires and not asking for everything we want. We go to him to get the experience of ‘pure love’, his teaching is love only and it is exploited and taken only advantage of his love if we go there to only ask for favors.
We have to accept truth and according to truth we have to accept right action and only if those three things are there, truth, right action and peace … we actually can experience ‘pure love’.

The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).

Because he said that he knew when he began with mediation that he would do it for his whole life I got also to the wrong conclusion that it was Baba and it was in his presence and it looked like ‘right action’. As we know now and we have to accept truth, that seems to be the karma whose effects we undergo in the present. Everything has turned into Karma we have to get aware off as what we undergo its effects in the present, even if it was rooted already in the father as above his head was the same ‘catastrophe’. Only when I saw it in my father – I actually didn’t think that it would be that bad, but as I avoided to go back in my parent’s house and I chose to see God in them to actually be able to live with it, in thinking God only I didn’t feel the catastrophe of the experience anymore as heavily and devastating as it had been before, but the result is a catastrophe and it is devastating still.
It was not Baba and ‘not right action’, but it had to do with the illusionary power of the mind which was reflection in the reality that he lived in your room and pretended to meditate, what mattered to me as I was a meditation teacher before and he said he would have a job, what had to do with being the former boss and that we had not to worry, actually, he never said how much he had. He could have had a lot hidden and pretend to not have anything I wouldn’t even know it. We have to accept truth that nothing what happened was true actually and that Baba as the man in our dream who is there to awake us said that he was just taking advantage of it and however we look at that ‘just taking advantage of it’, Baba said us indirectly through his words and listening to him that it is the mind only. There is no Atmic reality, because Atma reflects in testified experience only and the mind lives from developing the imaginative faculty. 

If we listen to Baba and we know the difference between ‘pure love’ as testified experience as we experienced ‘pure consciousness’ in our transcendental awareness during meditation, we know actually that people who tell that Baba appears in his light body … also use only their imaginative faculty and why?
We cannot experience ‘pure love’ and only ‘that’ is God if we don’t accept truth and someone who is telling that Baba appears in the light body and spreads that rumor around doesn’t care about accepting truth. If that person who began with it would have had that in the insight he would be careful to accept truth and insight and it has to be understood right and that is not about a group of people.
It cannot be true as they said he appeared in the light body to the students. If he appears as the man in our dream who is there to awake us it is an individual experience and it has to be confirmed by his words and listening to Baba and that keeps us busy and we don’t claim we know was we know he has to testify the experience and he is the knower and not we know, it is practically impossible to make such a statement, it cannot be true and it is only developing the imaginative mind faculty.

We have to accept truth and if we accept the path of truth, we are careful because we also have to accept right action and we cannot allow for our own Karma and because it has a devastating influence on our life to ignore truth and to accept falsehood as true and instead of right action to commit blunder. But it is all based on wrong steps that relationship and the question is how to see Karma. At the time I didn’t know what was right and what was wrong and I went for the experience not because it was about marriage and ‘right action’, but because he seemed to be a meditator and a devotee. Now we know by testified experience that it was not true. Baba was in the insight with two faces, one had vampire teeth and I wondered where that came from and the other has a very long nose. The vampire lives of the energy of others and that had to do with meditation, he was not a meditator, but he took advantage of it that means he was living of the others energy instead of doing something to purify his own energy and the long nose is falsehood as Baba described it not long ago. It is the devotee who claims to go for truth and it is not true that means it is falsehood. That is how in thinking it over we get the answer just by thinking it over and seeing it in our own life. We went ahead with the relationship and went into marriage and we had to get a divorce as Baba said in the inner view afterwards, because of the daughter, if was done by the circumstances and we wanted to do the best also for the child and it was not about knowing that it was the right thing to do with him, it was only for the child.  

The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).

There is the accumulated Karma in the past what has to do with not knowing about the situation of the catastrophe we had met in the father and what devastating influence it could have, but before I knew and that is why took that attitude seeing God in the parents, because that put them on a level of the ideal and I went on like that and if they were not God, I still looked at them as God. But the delusion was big. If we would have just an idea about truth and that is was just telling us and pretending to be a meditator for his whole life, I would not have done it. Mediation is my life and even if I am not working anymore as a meditation teacher, it was not possible to integrate what Baba said and to go on, I am still meditating and in the mean time I am doing it for a long time, it seems like all my life. When he told me later on that he never did it, it didn’t make sense to me, because I was not aware of the background and the relationship with his former boss. We were in Baba’s presence and only Baba mattered and nobody else. If that would have happened in New York or anywhere else but not in Baba’s presence, it probably would have been obvious. It would have been obvious in the TM-movement so it was also a sign that we were not safe anymore being out of it. I was afraid to it and exactly what I feared happened but not in the TM-movement, but out of it. I was that scared of the insights when I got aware that everything turned into the opposite and all were enemies instead of friends in the inner view that I put omsairam in front of the mantra I used already for years in my meditation, it was not possible to change it and we should not stop it, but I made my own meditation advanced technique, but it was of no use, to not understand it exposed me anyhow in that situation, because I had to get answers and anyone could take advantage of it and that was bad luck to meet that person who was actually bold enough to do it, but I met it. When he said in the insight, go for it, you are American, you can do it’, it was an insight, but in the negative sense it was also present with my ex and it was the attitude of the mind, there were no answers and it seems like that to go on forever and the real answers came only after Baba left the body. As I was that scared of the experience to be exposed to the leader of the meditation movement and it all had turned into the opposite and I didn’t know why he still felt like a friend, it was all upside down. The master was not there and he was just not able to keep up with the high principle of yoga. He was an actor and only thinking about his role and not a yogi and that reflected on everybody and therefore they all looked like enemies what was an awful experience and the hand was not there who had made the puppets on a string and it was the insight that the master was actually not at his place, but in the West that was difficult and we know it was and that why he made only a technique out of it.
We thought that we were listening to Baba and that he was present and we thought we did our best to understand it and I meditated constantly in the ashram, I went on with mediation during the time we were together.  We got into that and it seems nearly impossible to get out of it again as we have to get aware of the types of Karma to be able to understand it. Anyhow it has turned into a catastrophe … not very uplifting but we have nevertheless to accept truth and that Baba is the man in our dreams who is there to awake us, so getting aware of the catastrophe is also a waking up call.
The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).

What has happened and what turned it into a catastrophe?

Is it past and accumulated Karma, Sanchita and it is also Prarabdha, the effects we undergo in the present and what is about the future or Aagami Karma?
It seems to have to do with the people involved not taking any responsibility and avoiding actually ‘truth’ and instead of accepting truth, when truth is avoided, whatever the reason, we give the mind more room to develop the imaginative faculty. It was probably even in purpose to give the mind more room to develop the imaginative faculty because it served our purpose for some reason or another and if we are in a certain life situation it can seem easier than to accept truth, but there is no excuse for it because whatever the reason it turns into falsehood if we don’t accept truth. We can have as many good reason we went, it is still the mind controlling our life and not the higher self.  

And that will have an effect on future and Aagami Karma.
If we develop our imaginative faculty of the mind we can think that ‘we know’ instead of getting aware that ‘we don’t know’. The ‘knower’ is also an imaginative knower, we cannot possibly know if we don’t know the principle and as long as we have not realized the principle there is no way we can know. That was in him from the beginning on, telling that he knew that Baba send me to him and that I was the wife he gave him and he had asked for a wife. How did he do it? Did he give up an order by email, but we didn’t have the internet yet. Did he send Baba a order notice like ‘I want a wife, please Baba give’ and another notice was, ‘I want a career, and not only any career, but with my former boss, please Baba give’?

He placed the order and he knew and that is why I went for it, not for the marriage, but for the experience with a so called meditator and a Baba devotee. The vampire is about sucking our energy and that reality we knew with meditation, because a meditator is purifying the mind and someone else who doesn’t do it can live from the good energy and feel better, so the vampire was the sign of living of the energy of the other and the long nose is falsehood and as the devotee is based in truth following divinity which is based on truth only it has to do with the wrong devotee. He was neither one nor the other, so everything was based on falsehood because I went for it – that was my reason and afterwards I couldn’t get out of it, because of being let down by my family and there was no way out. So the guy who based everything on falsehood won in the check pot, because I really couldn’t get out of it. But also the accumulated Karma of the past had already that effect not being able to get out of it, let down by the family and the other was exactly the guy who could take advantage it just because of that reason.

He was none of it, no meditator as he never did it and it was a technique and we are only doing it if we do it regularly and Baba is ‘truth’ (love is my form, truth is my breath, bliss is my food) and as it was not true, it was falsehood and it ended up in carelessness and violence and absence of love. I didn’t think it was part of the lesson when he hit with a pot on my head because I had asked him to not spit the nuts he cut with his teeth in the breakfast actually. It was disgusting and he had provoked it and it ended in violence no doubt about that and life is the best teacher; we could have been killed by it. The devotee Baba was talking to in the interview room and he had asked, how that girl was and I just had to translate and to whom I belonged and what our relationship was, she got hit with a bottle on the head and she died of it in the hospital afterwards when she got robbed and the villagers followed her in the ashram and everybody we all were with Baba in Kodai. If we don’t listen to Baba we don’t hear and understand that he is telling us that we have to accept truth and if we don’t do that there is falsehood and we have to accept right action and if we don’t do that there is attachment and it will result in hatred and not in ‘pure love’ and if we don’t understand peace, there is in fact violence and that was all present and if we listen to him he is telling us why it was present, it has turned into the opposite again.

The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future). 

Of course, God is not affected by it as divinity is beyond the body, but that lady was with me in the interview room when Baba asked, who is that girl and I had to translate. I couldn’t avoid it that he talked about me in that situation as he asked her directly and I had to translate and afterwards I was looking for an answer.  

The right answer is, ‘I am that’. The reflection of the man in our dream who is there to awake us was the ‘I am the One’. It was he who knew and he who said it and by getting aware of it something happens if he is telling us in the insight, ‘I am that One’ we get aware in the reflection of it that our own ‘I’ is also part of it and that therefore, everybody is part of it and that there is no difference, we are all one. It was not only Baba who is, ‘I am the One’, but all are that.
That reflection level would never ever have been possible with my ex, he didn’t listen even if I told him on and on again and again during seven long years that Baba said we should get a divorce and he ignored it. He didn’t listen and there we had the reason for the divorce. We couldn’t use on that path someone who didn’t listen. And he doesn’t’ understand until today that Baba is not different from his message and that there is only God if there is a message and we have to listen to that message, the avatar is an avatar because of the message and we go only to Baba because of that message and no other reasons.
As he went for other reasons and he was sent by his former boss whatever his reason was that he sent him to Baba, he went there waiting for ‘wife and career’ and Baba to give him what he wanted, he didn’t go there because of Baba’s message and he probably will never understand that there is a message in Baba and he should listen to his words and that it is not just a place for a vacation and a visit, but that it is a pilgrimage place. The result is a perverted state of mind and a perverted spirituality.  

When it is about ‘contemplation’ and Baba’s words, he thinks it is personal processing … When it is about Atma and non-conceptual being and truth, he thinks it is about wife and career and when it is about being a father or husband, he thinks all others should take care and Baba gives even if he said long ago in his dream that he will not give, he is not able to realize it. He doesn’t care about truth and of course, he doesn't care about 'right action' and seen out of the light of the divine that is bad company, it is impossible to realize the divine principle of ‘I am that’ if we are in bad company. He doesn’t see that Baba is here because it is a message as he didn’t go to Baba because it was an inner calling as it is with all others, but he was sent there by other reasons and by his former boss and he is wealthy so he followed him in his foot step to get rich and instead of listening to Baba we get books from him about ‘think and get rich’. It is still perverted and he doesn’t understand it. When it is about contemplation and the word is God and getting aware that we have to realize that the word is God what is present in his words and when thinking it over, he thinks it is personal processing and Baba gave me someone I can talk to someone as it was never possible to talk to that guy … He is destroying with that attitude until now the ideal of it and that it is a Baba Lila and he makes out of it a mind story which has no other sense for him than to replace … him as he was not a not good husband, he was no husband at all. When Baba left the body he said, ‘no more husband, nothing left but an empty Western shoe’, but in the insight there were pair of old worn out brown and ugly and big male shoes and later there was on my fee some two nearly identical Indian slippers and I guess that is one shoe for meditation and the other for devotion. But that guy thinks it is everything for a selfish purpose, because for him everything has a selfish purpose only.

Moreover, if we would ever have been able to talk. He had no time in the morning, he was reading his newspaper and had not time at lunch, he was eating, he had no time in the evening, there was something else and he had no time at night, he wanted to sleep and it always ended in arguing and I said, ‘Baba will find a way’ to not create hell for the daughter who had also to live in that situation and relationship of her parents my duty was clear in respect to her, but not him as he was strange and everything was based on falsehood and violence and attachment and the only result can be ‘hatred’ and not ‘pure love’ and if we hate God we are on the level of a demon and not a devotee.

I thought it was in some way Karma and I tried to learn whatever I could to not be forced to repeat it again and I tried to make sense out of it and I am still doing that today. And after Baba said in the inner view, 'you didn’t listen you have to get a divorce', I wrote him because we had to get a divorce and not because I could share things with him and I never got an answer anyhow. What came back as echo was never good, he had no time and he said he would take the path of least effort and that is not Baba, he is work up to human excellence and sever ever and hurt never. If Baba said TM was not the right path, he wrote me four pages that he had met a great guy and meditator that there was nothing wrong because he was so established and he was in meditation six hours a day what we did as well anyhow, but he was aware of it with that guy but not with us. He was of no help to get any answers at all as we had hoped at the beginning. We have to follow the inner master and the man who is in our dream to awake us, he sees something else in it and he thinks it is a mind game …, not a Baba Lila and that is not the same thing. Nothing sensible came back; it was never about Baba, it was always about him only.
He never got the idea of it that it could be a Baba Lila and we should go by it. He only saw in Baba a means to take advantage of it and he still has that idea that he gives even if it only developing the imaginative faculty of the mind.
He doesn’t question it and he didn’t try to get an answer, he made it impossible to get a right answer and he sends books to his daughter and quotes not Baba, but he quotes pages of that book and he copied it from one of those books, ‘think and get rich’ as an excuse to not pay her further training she does now. That is the father he is, everything based on falsehood.
It is a catastrophe, he doesn’t get it that there is a different message we should at least respect if we go to Baba and he goes every year there for about five weeks for a visit only, not aware that it is a place of pilgrimage.
It is more than stupid to not even get aware that there is a message and we have to follow that message and not do something else, but as he went there thinking he would get rich in following his former boss’s footsteps actually and not Baba's …, it results in perverted spirituality. Baba he didn’t only said in the insight that we didn’t listen and we had to get a divorce and I wondered why, because I listened as much as I could at that time, in my mind I did nothing else but listening, also those tapes I listened to were about divinity and Baba also said that is was ‘perverted’ and I thought and what is that, why perverted?

Listening to those tapes cannot be perverted, but now we know why … we get books about ‘think and get rich’ instead of financial support for her training, instead of being a father he is quoting those books and he doesn’t listen to Baba like he would have no message and he was only there to be taken advantage of it.
Baba said also in the insight that I should send him the bill and of course, I don’t know exactly how that bill looks, we will know after we did it. Follow the master, fight to the end, finish the game, that is what he said in the interview room to our group, but I would think we have to face the devil as well in that Lila. That is how we begin to understand why not listening and why perverted awakened from the insight by the man who is there in our dream to awake us.
Since we left and we listened to Baba and he not, there is nothing to share really, he is out of it. He went the path of least effort not listening to Baba and he created only problems for us and he didn’t give a shit about it.

The catastrophe was between Baba, him and you and exactly the three of you. Baba is the Atma level, the other is mind level, what the others think and he is the body level and when he talked only about his former boss that was the mind level, what the other think he lived in his room. In the ashram it was like the mirror of society and what had happened before was no present in a shortcut form so that we could get aware of it. It was a catastrophe because nothing was true.  The mind level was his former boss and he was the body level and that is why it appeared all different than it really was. It seemed to have to do with Baba, because he had given the room to his former boss, it happened in the ashram so it was anyhow Baba in it … but it was also the mirror what had happened before already with the TM leader. There was the master and what he had given to him making him a leader and his role and what the others think and by that all turned into enemies.  

For me it was even a sacrifice and maybe it was the ‘savior’ idea because he said he needed help, the idea of being useful to someone … until it turned into violence and then it was no more the idea of being useful, but only of being used and taken advantage off and abused and it seemed impossible to get out of it. He didn’t care if he ruined out life as long as his was okay and as vampire he felt good in taking advantage of it. It was a very sick relationship, it felt like more I meditated worse he got.   

The suffering and travails of this world are illusory and transitory. Fix your mind firmly on this great fact and set out bravely on the path of spiritual practice, the practice of devotion.

We should not ignore it and we have to care also about truth and accepting right action doing the right thing, because we have to accept truth and if we accept truth, we also have to accept right action. It is not possible to accept right action if we ignore things because it seems more pleasant to look at it in a certain way. If it has only to do with our imaginative faculty and what arranges the mind in self-elevation and leads to that attitude, no need to do something, no need for a message, no need for effort, it is enough if we keep silence and stay out of it as much as possible, that is certainly not Baba’s message.

The suffering and travails of this world are illusory and transitory. Fix your mind firmly on this great fact and set out bravely on the path of spiritual practice, the practice of devotion.

 That is why we should actually meditate instead of understanding it on a mind level, being unaware of the message in Baba's words and the that we have to expand consciousness and absorb. There was no possibility to talk to in my parent’s house and that was the same with him, there was nobody to talk to and that is why I said always, Baba did it, Baba will find a way.
That is how much I talked.

Listening to Baba's words is about the study circle and the blog and Baba’s message, we have to listen, think it over and absorb (Baba).
We have to used discrimination first that is the difference between message and silence, here the 'message is Atma' and 'silence on that level is mind'. We have to see it in our own life and we have to get a right answer.

The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).

There is like no memory anymore of how it had been when we met and how it felt when Baba was still in it, because the response is always perverted and on a wrong level. I have not met that guy on the level he responds if it would have been like that, we would have run from it, in Baba's presence it was different. Everything he said turned out to be falsehood and Baba said to his daughter in the dream that her father is stupid he doesn’t know what he is doing and if she is going back to him, as he is destroying himself, he will destroy her as well.  

There is a catastrophe, because there is no Baba. It was not Baba when we met and it was not Baba afterwards and that I had to realize the hard way and it is a catastrophe, because Baba was before everywhere and afterwards we were in the ashram but it is like he was not there anymore that vampire took over. It was already not okay when we met in Kodai, it feels like all sick and disturbed now knowing how  it really was. That is the memory of that time together, no good memories, I was thinking he was meditating and he was not, thinking there would be the presence of his boss as he said he will have a job again another devotee and it was not so, the trust that Baba's Lila works out for the best and it was not so, it was for the worst if it leads into a catastrophe. The relationship means the Baba Darshan was gone, it is not present in that relationship, and there is no beauty, no love and no truth.
There is only ugliness, perversion, sickness and falsehood and in the end if the perversion and violence is there it is actually due to attachment and it results not in ‘pure love’, but in carelessness and hatred.

What I remember is not Baba’s Darshan, but that I was hit on the head with a metal pot and the dream how I went down the escalator with Baba and that there had been a prince, which was no more, I got married with it and nothing left of that prince in that marriage and at the bottom was a big check and that is only empty promises. Everything what Baba tells us that should not be there, was actually there. He is telling us to always keep promises, not one was kept, not one was such that it could be true and  – if there is nothing but perversion, falsehood, violence and abuse and path of least effort in it, and there is no Baba …. He is holing up the high ideal and not going for the sick mind games.

So Baba’s presence was there in the background, but it was also not felt, there was not any real Darshan anymore after I was with that guy. I don’t feel Baba in it anymore.

And that is the real problem I couldn’t connect to Baba anymore. There was only that mind and no Baba. In him was everything what he told us not to do, it was never Baba.

There was no love, no care, no truth, no right action and no peace and that is what I remember after the time I had been with him. I had to take care of a small child and get along with the situation until we left and after I had to wait until that divorce was done and that were again seven years and let down by the family we had to face many obstacles. Baba was nowhere to be felt anymore. It was the worst example of a it possible; he was present in the dream as vampire and with a very long nose what means falsehood as we know now by now as he is explaining it to us through his words.

But I realize that I find Baba again in his words and in his message. First is the word and the word is with God and the word is God. If there is a feeling of Baba and divine presence it is in his words.

 The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).

 That is how we see it in our own life and our Sadhana is to think it over as Baba said, we have to see it again and again and repeat it again and again and that guy thinks it is because of him as for him everything is selfish only – for him only he matters and he is a disturbance and a trouble maker and his reality doesn’t matter, because not one word he ever said was Baba, everything whatever he said came out of his mind state.

The spiritual practice means getting aware of it and getting the right answer which was not possible to get on that level and the spiritual practice is not only mediation and Bhajans and devotion but also thinking over Baba's words, that is a way to practice devotion in not ignoring what he is telling us and like my ex said to practice ‘think and get rich’ he really doesn’t know what he is doing.
If we want to make the experience of ‘pure love’ we have to accept truth and if we accept the path of truth, we have to accept right action and we have to understand peace and only if we have those three things, truth, right action and peace, we can make the experience of ‘pure love’ and that are the human values, truth, right action, peace, love and non-violence, that is the result. That are the human values and how they are connected.

In those words is Baba, in every word is Baba and we have to get aware that the word is God and he is present if we listen to his words, we think it over and we absorb.

He is not aware that in Baba’s words is truth and that truth is God and that the word is God. He is not aware that Baba teaches the 5 human values.

So he makes out of the highest the lowest and he thinks it is a mind game …

It is impossible to realize on that level the divine or to stay even in touch with divinity on that level and that is what Baba told him already when we had met.  He said he warned him that he will not get the right answer in that room, but it was the room of his boss. It was all controlled by Baba, but at the same time it was also as it was and a mirror of our mind state.  

 The suffering and travails of this world are illusory and transitory. Fix your mind firmly on this great fact and set out bravely on the path of spiritual practice, the practice of devotion.

 That is why we practice devotion in following the inner master and in listening to Baba’s words.
The inner master is the insights and Baba‘s words is the reflection if we listen to him and think it over and it is that reflection of truth in his words that testifies our experience and that is Baba’s Lila and not what we develop in our mind as imaginative faculty of the mind. 

Divinity has to testify our experience and the insights it explains to us why the dream when he was present as vampire and with a very long nose and it leads into catastrophe …, and getting aware that the Darshan was gone, too much disturbance.
And here he is telling us also why shadow, I met a devotee I also translated for and I met in her my own shadow - that was the sanchita, the accumulated Karma and the prarabdha is the effects we undergo in the present, she was afterwards always talking endlessly and she was sick I wanted to not go back and away from it and there were my mother and sister in that. What is present as aagami, the Karma we perform now whose results will be in the future, that is why actually we listen to Baba's words, we get aware of it that the word is God and that he is in the word and the result will be felt in the future.

The fruits of action, good or bad, adhere to the vehicle and not to the indweller. When such wisdom dawns, the dark shadows of the three types of Karma flee before it (The three being Sanchita - the entire accumulated Karma; Prarabdha - the Karma whose effects we undergo in the present and Aagami - the Karma we perform now whose results will be felt in the future).

If we listen carefully and get aware by listening to Baba's words of his divine presence and we remember him as it had been in Prasanthi Nilayam. We have to listen, think it over and absorb, get to the right answer, right conclusion and we find Baba in it.
He is God and the word is God, he is the divine message and the difference between those three types of Karma. In the memory of his Lila are the interviews, the insights, the Darshan and the present and we have our motivation following him as the inner master and listening to his words to change the future.