Many people slander image worship, but its basis is really
one’s capacity to see the macrocosm in the microcosm. The value of image
worship is testified by experience; it doesn’t depend on one’s imaginative
faculty. What is found in the form of the Lord (Virat-swarupa) is also found, undiminished and unalloyed, in the image form (Swarupa). Images serve the same purpose as metaphors and similes in
poetry. They illustrate, amplify, and clarify. Joy comes not through the shape
of things but through the relationship established. Not any child but her child
makes the mother happy. So it is with each one and all things! With each and
every thing in the universe, if one establishes that kinship, that Godly love (Iswara
prema), then truly an overpowering joy can be experienced! Only
those who have felt it can understand.
If it is about our capacity to
see the macrocosm in the microcosm, it is about intelligence and someone who goes
to the Lord and is in his presence for that much time and has not the capacity
to realize that he is with the macrocosm and he is going back to his place and
there he is again in his small world of microcosm and he doesn’t realize the
that it is not the same or that something is wrong, such a person, whatever it
looks like at the outside level, he cannot be awake, he is dull and stupid and
that were Baba’s words in the insight he said, ‘stupid’.
He uses always the best words to
describe something.
Many people slander image worship, but its basis is really
one’s capacity to see the macrocosm in the microcosm.
Also in the Bible is said that we
should not make an image of God. To be able to see the macrocosm in the
microcosm is based on intelligence, we can call it pure intelligence or
creative intelligence, but it is intelligence.
The value of image worship is testified by experience; it
doesn’t depend on one’s imaginative faculty.
What does Baba exactly tell us
here? Whatever the image we have it has to be testified by experience and it is
not about imaginative faculty. We have to know the difference between
imagination and experience. If we think we know, it is imagination, we talk
about a certain way we see it based on imagination only, not testified
experience. When is the experience testified, when we do it and we are together
and all experience Baba's love in it. If we have the experience, like Darshan,
the image is reflected in the Atmic reality of Baba’s presence and we have the
experience of it and we even get the reflection of the same image listening to
his words, it is testified by experience and it is not our imagination. To
think that Baba will give what we want, when the divine reality is about
something else and it is about intelligence and self-realization and cognition
and expanding awareness, it is about divinity and pure love, we go to him with
wrong expectations and that is also an imaginary faculty, we think it is God
that gives, when in reality it is something else. How can we get aware of the
truth in it and what it really is, it is testified by experience.
We don’t live a love based on
imaginative faculty, we live a love based on truth. We do not imagine how to
love Baba and remembering how his Darshan has been, we make the experience and
we realize it and if we listen to his words, our experience is testified. He is
in his words, he is the divine message, he is the ‘I am that’ and everybody is
the same ‘I am that’, and who has the capacity of light and intelligence to
realize the ‘I am that’ is also God.
There is only ‘One’ – principle of ‘I am that’ and it is for all the same.
We don’t imagine Baba’s love in
front of us, we have the experience of him and in listening to him and sharing
with other as he is present when two or three are in his name together, we
testify the experience and he is really present and it is true and not in our
imagination.
If we try to remember the Lord’s
love as it was in our Darshan and we try to make it stronger on an imaginary
level, we don’t realize the truth in it, it is only imagination.
But in a study circle sharing
with others we testify the same experience that was present in Prasanthi
Nilayam and with Baba, that is He, that is his love and he is present and not
absent, but in our imagination trying to love him as much as we can, we are in
the mind and in illusion. Sharing with
others his words and listening carefully to him, we actually get aware of
Baba’s presence. It is testified in the experience and not just imagination.
If we are not able to
discriminate between imagination and true, we are not very intelligent, but as
Baba said, it is stupid.
Do you agree? There is the
difference of experience and only thinking of it. If we meditate with a mantra
we have to make the experience of meditation, there was the example of a
strawberry used, we cannot just look at it and describe it, and we have to
taste it to make the experience, so we have to meditate to make the experience.
It doesn’t work if we are only imagining it. It has to be testified by our
experience. And the same is with Baba’s love. If we share it in the study
circle with others in his words Baba’s love is present and it is possible to
feel his presence and that is testified experience and not in our imagination
thinking we feel love and we are special and alone and not talking to others.
If we do that we are actually not living Baba’s message and we make not the experience
of it, but it is all on an imagination level.
Everything what my ex does is
imagination only. He is actually thinking that God gives him this and that and
he is just taking advantage of it, there is no reality in it and when it comes
to sharing with others, he doesn’t share with anybody, so the testified
experience of Baba’s love as experience and not just the thought of it, is not
present. We feel it during Bhajans and we feel it in the study circle, we share
in the testified experience, it is Baba’s presence and love and not just
imagination.
That is how we should understand
Baba’s words, there has to be reality, it has to be experience, we do it now,
we share and in that is Baba and what we think Baba is giving and that he is in
there, and that is only imagination.
We have to listen and only if we
listen and go deep into his wisdom, we are actually able to be in a study
circle, otherwise, it is only half a circle and that can go on forever.
If we are outside of the
experience using the gift of Baba only in a selfish way and it is all
imagination and no reality of love. If we have a study circle and if Baba is in
it we share the wisdom if not we are the example of only half a circle, but if
there is no sharing at all it is even worse, there is no testified experience..
It is like with mediation, we had
to meditate to make the experience, no use of just talking about or imagining
to meditate, only the testified experience is real and that is the same with
Baba’s love, only the testified experience of that love is real and true and
Baba, the imagination of it is not Baba, but illusion, the imaginative giving
is not Baba, but only our mind and we are stupid if we don’t get aware of it.
The value of image worship is testified by experience; it
doesn’t depend on one’s imaginative faculty.
We have to know the difference
between imaginative faculty and we in the West are great in imaginations and difference
in the real experience of it. The real experience is only with others together as
he said, ‘if
two or three are in my name together I am in the midst of them’.
What is found in the form of the Lord (Virat-swarupa) is also found, undiminished and unalloyed, in the image form (Swarupa). Images serve the same purpose as metaphors and similes in
poetry. They illustrate, amplify, and clarify. Joy comes not through the shape
of things but through the relationship established.
He talks about the value of image
worship testified by experience. In India there are many God’s and many ways how
they worship the Lord. We have to understand it right and see for what purpose it
is.
They illustrate, amplify, and clarify. Joy comes not
through the shape of things but through the relationship established.
If we live the established
relationship there is joy. If Baba uses metaphors it is to illustrate, amplify
and clarify. It is as he is telling us here, the experience of ‘joy’ doesn’t
come from the shape of things, but through the established relationship. It has
to be testified experience not just our imagination what it should be, only the
imagination is not real, it is illusion.
Only if we share with others like
in a study circle Baba’s words we feel his presence due to his words in the
circle and it is a circle, otherwise it is only half a circle.
The highest wisdom has organizing
power and we know that also from our meditation time. If we do it – it is like
when we meditate – it is present because we do it, we share our experience with
Baba with the others and it is testified experience and it feels like in
Prasanthi Nilayam where Baba is present and if we just imagine it, it results
in the ‘catastrophe’ which was in the insight last week or it is even worse,
the message of Baba is not only ignored, it is just not there. There is no Baba
in it, there is no meditation, there is no sharing, there is no talk about
Baba, there is nothing … what is there, it is disturbed and it is dangerous. If
is disrespectful and misuse of his gift and his message. If it is about a
catastrophe, there is no enlightenment in that, there is no intelligence in it,
there is no light and that is testified experience and not just imagination. If
we talk about mind, we are on the imagination level and if we talk about Baba
and truth, we are on the testified experience level.
We should always listen carefully
and think Baba’s words over and seeing it in our own life so that we are able
to absorb the wisdom in our own self.
Not any child but her child makes the mother happy. So it
is with each one and all things! With each and every thing in the universe, if
one establishes that kinship, that Godly love (Iswara
prema), then truly an overpowering joy can be experienced! Only
those who have felt it can understand.
Here Baba talks about the direct
experience. Not any child but our own child can make a mother happy. What is
the difference between direct experience and just the imagination of it. It is
in direct sharing, a family is only a family if we share and are together, if
we just think about it we are a non-functional family like a marriage which is
only in the head is a dysfunctional marriage, it has to be real and shared to
be a marriage. If we just think how it should be, we are on an imagination
level and we develop our imaginative faculty.
So it is with each one and all things! With each and every
thing in the universe, if one establishes that kinship, that Godly love (Iswara
prema), then truly an overpowering joy can be experienced! Only
those who have felt it can understand.
The example of the mother and the
child is with everything the same. If there is a relationship with the Godly
love, there can be joy experienced. And Baba also is telling us that only those
who have felt it can understand.
I had been in his Darshan and
there was that much joy it felt like overflowing and I didn’t know how to take
it, it felt like too much joy sometimes.
It is like in Prasanthi people
are that nice and happy that on a certain point it is difficult to take, that
was my experience and then we begin to see the others and those who are less
happy and the problems and we may think
we cannot take that, but it is only the other side of it and the shadow.
It is not intelligent if we go to
an Avatar with the imagination in our head that we know already everything …
that is for sure misleading and wrong. We have to be open and learn and not be
convinced that there is nothing to learn as it seems to be the case with some
people I know, they don’t even make an effort to listen to Baba’s word, what
about thinking it over and being able to absorb.
We have to make the experience
that ‘we don’t know and he is the knower’, he knows and he is the doer. The
insight is about intelligence. Only if we are able to get aware of it that he
is the doer, don’t imagine his form …, he is the doer on a energy level,
non-conceptual, he is the doer in our own higher self, but that higher self is
beyond the body, therefore, it feels like ‘He is the doer’, he is beyond the
body, ‘I’ is in the body, but when we follow him and go into that relationship
we realize that ‘I am that’ or ‘I am the one’ and that ‘I’ is not anymore in the
body, but the universal ‘I’, but we cannot make the experience of it in the
body, we have to share with others to make the experience of it and that is how
we get to the testified experience and that is Baba’s presence and love and
that is ‘real’, everything else is just imagination.
We look in Baba’s eyes and see
the bliss, that is real love and joy and happiness and not just
imagination.
Only those who have felt it can understand.
How do we feel it after Baba has left
the body? We feel it during Bhajans and we feel it during the study circle and
we make the experience if we share his message and ‘our message has begun’, we
have to stand up and do it. And only if we do it and we jump over the shadow of
fear of others and devotees and material and wordy stuff, only if we do it,
only if we practice we get out of the vicious circle what has made it end up in
a catastrophe, a catastrophe because Baba, the man in the dream who is there to
awake us said that it was the reason why he was in the wheelchair, the
catastrophe has also hit him … that is a real catastrophe.
We should look at what we are
doing and get aware of the stupidity in our attitude of mind that we get such a
message of the Lord that he has been in the wheelchair because of that. There
was in the inner view and insight as catastrophe and also a catastrophe for us
and that is testified experience.
There is no joy in that, but
there is a catastrophe, there is no love, but there is a catastrophe, there is
no care and no sharing, but there is a catastrophe and Baba in the wheelchair
and it is a disaster. There is no divine message and no messenger of God, but a
catastrophe.
If the gift of the avatar is used
only in a selfish way and you are two, not only one, it turned into a
catastrophe.
It seems we have to open to
window to let in a vampire and that window was opened up it seems when you sent
him to Baba and gave him your room to live in instead of a job, what he really
wanted, to share the status with the others in the ashram, your status, your
room, your respect you had in the ashram, because Baba gave you lots of
attention.
You had sent him there to build
up an even bigger ego just focused on getting from the Lord what he couldn’t
get with you, reaching out for the impossible, it is all based on imagination,
not one single thought of all of that is based on reality, it is all illusion
only and dream.
There is not one testified experience
in it and he goes on like that in his mind living in the dream of imaginary God
who is giving him whatever serves him, but never what severs the others and no
sharing and that means – no Baba, just a catastrophe, using Baba’s gift and
power only for selfish means.
Actually every normal person in
the mind in the world is better than such a monster of a blind cruel and
heartless egomaniac, who doesn't know what he is doing and who is using the
Lord only for his own selfish means.
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