When This Truth Dawns ...

To discriminate between good and bad, one must resort to scriptures. The Vedas emerged from the Divine Himself and were ‘heard’ by sages attuned to the voice of the Divine, who in turn, taught them to their disciples. This process of imparting the Vedas and the wisdom enshrined in them has continued through many generations of Gurus and disciples until now. The Upanishads, the Brahma Sutra and the Bhagavad Gita contain the very essence of the Vedas. Hence these are designated as ‘three fundamental texts (Prasthana traya)’ of the science of spirituality. Acquisition of higher knowledge alone can fulfill the main purpose of human life; it makes one aware that one is not the inert non-sentient body but an embodiment of being-awareness-bliss. When this truth dawns and is experienced, you are freed from the fog of ignorance and are liberated, in this very life.

Baba (thought for the day)

Baba is telling us we must resort to scriptures and where are the scriptures in the West? 

Maharishi was teaching the same thing.

If you google ‘Apaurusheya Bhashia’ there are lots of Maharishi pages. What is the consequence of that truth.

We know we have to accept truth. Now we have two levels, one is what he tells us and Baba’s words and what is in the scriptures and on the other hand we have our own wisdom and insights and finding truth in it is realization.

How do we get to insights?

If we take the scripture or Baba’s words and see in the light of our own life and in the light of our insights, the insight in the scriptures will come alive.

To discriminate between good and bad, one must resort to scriptures. The Vedas emerged from the Divine Himself and were ‘heard’ by sages attuned to the voice of the Divine, who in turn, taught them to their disciples. This process of imparting the Vedas and the wisdom enshrined in them has continued through many generations of Gurus and disciples until now.

Are we able without the scripture to discriminate between good and bad, if we read his words we get to the conclusion that we are not. Why are we not able to discriminate between good and bad? Because we are in the mind. We are always in the mind. It is the truth in the scriptures which gets us beyond the mind in accepting that truth (that is a must) and it doesn’t work without it, and if we have accepted that path of truth, we also have to accept the path of right action and only if we accept the path of right action we are able to understand peace and only if there is peace, there will be the experience of ‘pure love’.

Apaurusheya is a central concept in the Vedanta and Mimamsa schools of Hindu philosophy. These schools accept the Vedas as svatah pramana ("self-evident means of knowledge"). These schools accept that the Vedas were "heard" by the Rishis.^[2] The Mimamsa school asserts that since the Vedas are composed of words (shabda) and the words are composed of phonemes, the phonemes being eternal, the Vedas are also eternal. To this, if asked whether all words and sentences are eternal, the Mimamsa philosophers reply that the rules behind combination of phonemes are fixed and pre-determined for the Vedas, unlike other words and sentences. The Vedanta school also accepts this line of argument.

(Wiki)

So there is Veda chanting in Prasanthi every morning and every evening before Bhajans.

A devotee said in our circle that Atma is truth and another said, that is too much only an idea and that he cannot go through it with that on the experience level. And he is right. We cannot just think Atma is truth and that’s it, we have to be that truth and it has to be in a relationship to us.

We cannot just experience the truth by Veda chanting. So how do we get to that ‘pure love’. As Baba said, we have to understand the path of peace.

The question is automatically coming up what is the path of peace and we said what he said, using his words, we have to accept the path of right action and if we accept the path of right action, we have to accept that path of truth. That answered it in using his words.  

There have to be three things, truth, right action and peace and we get to that experience of pure love and that are again his words.

That makes the connection with the tank of God’s grace and if that connection is there, the water will flow from the water taps, that means divine Grace will flow as love and he, divinity, takes care for us of the world and world peace. That is summarized again what he is telling us.

With TM we had big assemblies of mediators and siddhas and purified like that consciousness and that took care of world peace and we could do something about it, he said that if seven thousand people would meditate together it would have an effect on the whole world, but that is practically impossible to get it for a longer time together. In Prasanthi are a lot of people living together and creating by that such an effect. With Osho it was called the Buddha field.

Are we able to accept the path of right action, if we have to resort to the scriptures to know the difference between good and bad?

Mere reading of spiritual texts is not enough. You may master all the commentaries and you may be able to argue and discuss with great scholars about these texts; but without attempting to practice what they teach, it is a waste of time.

We have to resort to the scriptures, but we have to not just read it that is a waste of time. If someone tells Atma is truth and that’s it.

Does he understand that the Atmic principle is ‘I am that’? And does he understand the truth in ‘I am that’ we have to accept? Probably not, it is not about telling what Baba tells, even if we do, we have to make it our own experience and for that we have to follow the insights. Baba tells he is the insight and he is the following step.

The insight is not what I think, it is inner vision. Here are the Rishis mentioned, the big seers, we have to see it and if want to get able to see it, we have to accept the path of truth first and the path of right action. There will be no seeing if there is no truth and right action.

The Upanishads, the Brahma Sutra and the Bhagavad Gita contain the very essence of the Vedas. Hence these are designated as ‘three fundamental texts (Prasthana traya)’ of the science of spirituality. Acquisition of higher knowledge alone can fulfill the main purpose of human life; it makes one aware that one is not the inert non-sentient body but an embodiment of being-awareness-bliss. When this truth dawns and is experienced, you are freed from the fog of ignorance and are liberated, in this very life

How does that acquisition of higher knowledge take place? It is in the inner view. It feels like that much info that we give up before we begin.

If in our center, it is mostly one couple who is doing that, it feels just like passion first because of them and they plan all year the Christmas play. They plan and later they prepare it and that was the main issue and singing Bhajans.

Acquisition of higher knowledge alone can fulfill the main purpose of human life; it makes one aware that one is not the inert non-sentient body but an embodiment of being-awareness-bliss. When this truth dawns and is experienced, you are freed from the fog of ignorance and are liberated, in this very life.

Being-awareness-bliss is ‘Sat-Chit-Ananda’. How do we find that truth in the scriptures in our own self? Self-realization.

We meditate to transcend the mind that helps to get aware that the mind is limited and not unlimited. If with mediation we go beyond the mind we reach the non-conceptual being state, just being, that the ‘I’ is an universal entity we get only aware with ‘insights’ or experiences of the divine in the heart, in the mirror of the heart and ‘that’ has to do with pure love and to make that experience as we know already, we need three things, ‘truth, right action and peace’.

How do we get there? We have to understand the path of peace. We have to resort to the scriptures.

Now tell that to someone in the West who has no idea about Veda.

How do we resort to the scriptures if we don’t know them. Before beginning we already kind of give up and sing only Bhajans and do Christian Christmas plays, because it is too difficult. We have not the slightest idea of it that Baba tells resort to the scriptures and because it has not value for us, as we don’t know it, we hold on to old Christian traditions thinking that is culture, but they have already lost their influence a long time ago and in a sense we try to refresh what already didn’t work for Christianity.

They think that is culture and the whole Vedic wisdom and background of Veda being created out of itself and by itself as divine wisdom is somehow lost. It has been already lost with Christianity and it gets lost again. 

When this truth dawns and is experienced, you are freed from the fog of ignorance and are liberated, in this very life.

How can we help others that truth dawns? Baba tells us this truth.

Acquisition of higher knowledge alone can fulfill the main purpose of human life; it makes one aware that one is not the inert non-sentient body but an embodiment of being-awareness-bliss.

He talks about Veda and the truth in the Vedas and he doesn’t go into it that the truth got lost in our culture, he just talks about the unity of all religions and that truth is for all the same, but we don’t live that truth if we just go into Christian culture if it had been lost. The right knowledge and the wisdom got lost and that was the main issue of Maharishi teaching us how to live it again with meditation.

The devotee who mentioned that Atma is truth said that it is the unity of all religions and what did he tell us by that? I didn’t understand it, but the devotee sitting at his side said that it needs something more going inside to feel it in the self to make sense. Yes it is what Baba tells us, the unity of all religions, but he doesn’t tell us to live Christian principles, he talks about ‘this truth’ and that is in higher knowledge and in that thought for the day we can see clearly that Baba talks about Veda.

In thinking it over we get aware of it. If I would just read it, it would not touch my heart, it would just be words and I would think, Baba talks about Veda and what is even worse, I would get to the mind-conclusion what is a not right conclusion and in that sense ‘bad’ that I understand it, like, he anyway always talks about the same thing. But if I write and think it over it is all different. What is the difference?

We get aware that Baba talks about ‘that culture’ only and not ‘our Western culture’. And Baba said when he left the body in the inner vision, in my dream, ‘no more husband, nothing left but an empty Western shoe’. 

It was painful, not just because he left the body and he was gone on the body level, but everything else in those words.

We can only get aware of problems if we can compare and in the case of my ex he went already to Baba based not on accepting truth, he had no idea about truth, but with ‘untruth’. That is so difficult to get for me, because it didn't come in my mind that this would be possible. It was just not present that it could be all wrong.

He made the same impression that he was a good meditator and a serious spiritual seeker on me and he wanted to make that impression on everybody. 

But his aim was not that, it was not spiritual, but material reasons and again, Baba tells us here we have to resort to the scriptures to know the difference between good and bad.

What is good and what is bad?

The same conditioning which was there before was also still there later on. 

It is not possible for me to see it without looking at what happened before. Only the relationship level of how he went into that, we can explain the perversion of it as Baba said it was perverted. And like that we get even a feeling for it and what it is perversion in the mind. It was a mind-conditioning. His believe is practically, if you do it once, you do it always. He functions in habits and that is why he is inflexible.

We have to accept truth, to be able to do it we have to see it and it didn’t make any sense to me at all when he said, he was initiated in meditation and he knew he would do it always, but he did it once, when he was initiated and he thought he will do it always, because of his mind conditioning and his functioning in habits, but that is only in the mind, only in his thoughts, there is no truth to that, because he never did it.

That thinking expanded on the relationship. He began to blame me for it and it functioned the same way in his mind, if once it will be always. It felt kind of sick and disturbed. 

So the feeling when he said I had to go and make peace with Baba was also disturbed, not clear, perverted, his problem projected on me so he had not to do it, thinking if he blamed me once, it would be up to me to be blamed always and he not, somehow putting everything on the other, so he didn’t have to be blamed, kind of.

So therefore in his mind I had to go an make peace with Baba and that was a very strange attitude of mind. That is how it was perverted I guess, as he functioned only in habits, if once always is a mind conditioning of not being flexible and he got to always more strange conclusions which arranged only him probably to make himself better and to put the blame on others to make sure that he would be the good guy and blameless when he was the one who had problems and who was fighting and arguing about it. 

I didn’t go into it, not only because it was dangerous, but also it was stupid, but it was awful to live like that. When he began to talk the energy went down and I don't remember one word he said, only at the feeling that the energy went down. I couldn’t neutralize it with meditation, my feeling level was affected. 

We had to live with it, not only because of the daughter not going into fights with him, it felt dangerous and it went nowhere, it felt just like harassing for the fun of it. It felt like he talked always and after a while the feeling level went down again, there was nothing else but that. It was like he made sure he didn’t stop until it felt like shit again.

He was the vampire Baba reflected in the insight and he fooled us into it with the long nose, like the insight said there was Baba with a very long nose and it is about accepting truth. There is no excuse on the level of truth, because we tend to excuse him. 

That is how Baba was making me aware of it and it was shocking to get awakened to that (truth) in this way and to have such a terrible Babas in the insight. 

To accept it as truth we have to first see it and it is kind of difficult to understand that state of mind. And we get there in the light of his relationship he had with his former boss, because he went like that in the ashram, all based on ‘untruth’ that is how he went to Baba.

With Baba everything becomes a lesson. It didn’t make sense to me that anyone would go to an embodiment of truth based on ‘untruth’ and to understand it we have to listen to Baba’s words and he tells us why. We have to resort to the scriptures to know right from wrong or good from bad.

If we think we know it is already ‘bad’ in the sense that we listen to the mind and it is not based on truth, but on delusion and wrong conclusion.

No matter what, we have to accept truth, if we are not able to accept truth, we will never get to accept the path of right action, what is the consequence of seeing truth. If we have to accept truth, we also have to accept right action and only then we are able to understand peace and we will be able to make that experience of ‘pure love’.  

We have to accept truth that he made himself look like a serious spiritual seeker and that he probably was therefore in that room and if there were other reasons we don't know, but he functioned in habits and it was 'not good'.

We always tried to excuse it. Is there an excuse for an empty Western shoe? How far was it only about him and not also a conditioning of the West in general?

Acquisition of higher knowledge alone can fulfill the main purpose of human life; it makes one aware that one is not the inert non-sentient body but an embodiment of being-awareness-bliss. When this truth dawns and is experienced, you are freed from the fog of ignorance and are liberated, in this very life.

Sat-Chit-Ananda is not the culture of the Christian church. Even if that truth is the unity of all religions, the West is not living it.

When this truth dawns and is experienced, you are freed from the fog of ignorance and are liberated, in this very life.

If we listen to Baba carefully we hear that he is telling us – this truth. 

Like that devotee in the study circle we think – unity of all religions and culture - and some begin to live our religion and there is no unity.

Sat-Chit-Ananda is the truth Baba is referring to and not our religion or our culture, and if we begin to live our cultural values it is all based on wrong mind conclusions and if we resort to the scripture we have to accept the truth that it is bad and not good. 

To discriminate between good and bad, one must resort to scriptures. The Vedas emerged from the Divine Himself and were ‘heard’ by sages attuned to the voice of the Divine, who in turn, taught them to their disciples. This process of imparting the Vedas and the wisdom enshrined in them has continued through many generations of Gurus and disciples until now. The Upanishads, the Brahma Sutra and the Bhagavad Gita contain the very essence of the Vedas. Hence these are designated as ‘three fundamental texts (Prasthana traya)’ of the science of spirituality. 

And to be reminded how we get to the the experience of 'pure love' ...  

When you enquire earnestly in order to experience Prema (Love), the human being goes about searching for several methods. If we really want to experience Prema, we have got to understand what Peace or Shanti means. If we want to follow the path of Peace, we will have to accept the path of Dharma. If we want to follow the path of Dharma, we will have to ac­cept the path of Truth. Here is a small example. Let us take Prema as the shining light. If we want to experience this shining light, we should have a bulb. If we want the bulb to glow and experience the shining light, we should have a connection to the bulb. By just a connection of wire to the bulb, the bulb is not going to glow. In that wire, we should have an electric current. Here we see that the electric current can be compared to the Truth, the wire can be compared to Dharma while the bulb can be compared to Shanti or Peace. If we have all these three things, then only we will get Prema, the light. We may have a good new bulb. We may have a wire. Are we going to get light out of that? Unless there is current inside the wire, we cannot get the bulb to glow.

(Text about ‘love’ 5^th chapter – human values)